When students begin to study international politics, they meet some very old and well-established schools of thought. These approaches disagree about a fundamental question: what is the most important kind of information to acquire? One school of thought recommends studying power: who holds the weapons, and who fears whom. From that, the thinking goes, you’ll be able to map the hierarchies and relationships that tell you everything essential that you need to know. Another recommends studying the cultures and dominant ideas that constitute the spirit of a given regime—to try to understand the way a nation will behave based on what it loves, what it honors, and how it understands itself.
Of course, ideally you would want to understand both. This week, I’m bringing together two of the most sophisticated, interesting analysts of the Middle East to discuss how they approach the region.
When Michael Doran looks at the Middle East, he focuses relative power. Doing so gives him the ability to separate the signal from the noise. The vitality of theological disputes and national cultures is constrained by the ability of the state to deploy force, whether in Iran, Egypt, Turkey, or Saudi Arabia. When Hussein Aboubakr Mansour looks at the Middle East, by contrast, he sees a set of ideologies whose provenance he traces back to European philosophy.
How do these two angles of vision relate to one another, and what does each offer? And what do they reflect back to us about America and the West?
Michael Doran is a senior fellow and director of the Center for Peace and Security in the Middle East at the Hudson Institute, and host, together with Gadi Taub, of the podcast Israel Update, which is cosponsored by Hudson and Tablet.
Hussein Aboubakr Mansour is a fellow at JINSA’s Gemunder Center, a columnist at Mosaic, and the author of the Abrahamic Metacritique on Substack.
This conversation was recorded live in front of an audience of elite undergraduates, participating in this year’s Beren Summer Fellowship, where this week, Michael Doran and Hussein Aboubakr Mansour have been resident faculty members.
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